having 2 or more plugins precache/use the same things should not precache them twice as two different things.. it should see that its already precached and skip it.. or at the very least overwrite the precache data of the previous one

It's not though, I confirmed this by taking all the copy caching plugins, and making one plugin out of them, thus aleiviating the precache copies, say boom.mdl in one, and a boom.mdl in the other. This stopped the crash error, but it's a huge pain in the arse. Thus needing some code in plugins to check others for copies before precaching, or some way to stop this.n nI only run about 5 or 6 plugins that have similar cache .mdls and sprites. Two have 5 or 6 similar, and the rest, 1 or 2, on top of a few that have dissimilar cache properties. n nAMXX Version 1.76dnMetamod-P 1.19p31

after discussing this a bit in #amxmodx on irc.. no one seemed to really be all that sure if it will actually take up two precache 'slots'nnnso teame06 gave me a for loop to try, so i popped it in a plugin and filled in the needed areas and got this:n

public plugin_precache()n{n    n         for(new i; i < 513; i++)n        {n        server_print("Precache # [%d]", i)n        precache_model("models/mapmodels/smoke_grenade.mdl")n        }n        n}

ok sorry for doubting you or whatever lol.. i think your totally right now :Pnnnjust put my local server over the limit.. pulled it back just slightly below the limit.. and threw in a plugin that precaches a model that is already precached in another plugin.. and that threw it over the limit.. removing the extra plugin.. was back to working fine..nnthats quite odd..nni dont really see how any plugin would be able to 'go thru' other plugins or anything and combine precaches or anything.. nntho i might take a look at the precache forward.. see what can be done with that..nn*edit* nnok im a dumbass.. i forgot the precache forwards are client precache and not server precaching

On a side note, does anyone know exactly what amount is being precached for the game. Why such a huge amount?n nSay dod_wolfie loads up, give it 100 precache items, n n3rd party plugins, give it a high number like 50,n nHow much does amxx precache?n nDoes the game itself precache other things at that moment, besides the map and plugins uselessly?n nWhere did the 360 precaches go?n nIt just seems weird, like some thing else is going on, maybe a bug, I don't know. :/

now knowing that valve added a command line argument to increase max entities.. it would be nice if someone or 10000 people would ask them to add one to increase the precache limit

You should post this on amxmodx.org's forums too.rnrnYou can hook FM_PrecacheModel and FM_PrecacheSound, etc. and make sure it hsan't already been precached.rnrnBut the problem is, that won't catch anything that is precached by plugins, as metamod cannot hook itself.

thats what i tried wilson.. nnit catches when each client precaches the stuff.. so that wont help.. as the server would crash before anyone could get on it anyway

Wow, It's good to see this topic come alive again.rnrnhttps://www.dodplugins.net/forums/showthread.php?t=524rnrnSuch an important issue for all server admins/owners.rnrnThanks Wardog, this new info is another small step toward finding the possible fix for this problem.rnrnSo to sum up what we have learned:rnrnIf we take all the precache requests from all the plugins ran, and combine them all into one plugin that just precaches stuff, (ie. no more doubles) this will reduce our precahe count? Hmmmm.rnrnIt sounds like the HL1 engine sort of sets aside precache slots and allows for some sort of multiples which makes me ask - why? sounds buggy.rnyou know Valve could care less :(

I've verified that two plugins precaching the same file return the same precache index, though it doesn't necessarily mean that they don't take up two precache slots anyway. I've also hooked FM_PrecacheModel and had it scan everything precached by the server dll, and there are no cases where the same resource returns multiple precache indexes.rnrnI'm not ready to give up on this entirely, though. Could anyone recommend some plugins that have a high amount of resources to stress out the limit?rnrnThanks.

im gonna try and do a couple more tests if i get a chance tomorrow..nnbut heres 3 plugins of mine that have larger #'s of files being precachednnDoD Explosives Beta (12 files)nDoD Smoke Grenades 2 (17 files)nDoD Throw Rocks (17 files)nnnheh and welcome to the forums mr 1 post hehe :P

Where's the Roll The Dice for AmxX that works with DoD?

I've verified that two plugins precaching the same file return the same precache index, though it doesn't necessarily mean that they don't take up two precache slots anyway. I've also hooked FM_PrecacheModel and had it scan everything precached by the server dll, and there are no cases where the same resource returns multiple precache indexes.nnI'm not ready to give up on this entirely, though. Could anyone recommend some plugins that have a high amount of resources to stress out the limit?nnThanks.